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Introduction: Be’Anka Ashaolu, Director of Marketing, Propel
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Be’Anka Ashaolu: We're back with more propulsion 2020 I'm Be’Anka Ashaolu director of marketing and propel and I welcome you to day two have our event.
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BA: Yesterday was incredible. Our CEO Ray Hein explain why propel is the only product solution for manufacturers embracing customer centricity
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BA: Geoffrey Moore shared insights and the digital transformation and how to win. Bruce Mehlman explained the long term impacts of the upcoming election.
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BA: Lee Hawkins shared family history that provides powerful insights into today's social movements.
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BA: Todd Ahlsten and shared his view of the economy and markets and Tiffany bowl is closing keynote provided insights into the implications of connected customers.
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BA: If you missed any of yesterday sessions. They're all available right now to watch on demand today enterprise strategist Bruce Richardson of Salesforce joined propel CEO and co founder
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BA: And VP of professional services September Higham for rapid fire manufacturing and supply chain session.
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BA: On the challenges manufacturers are facing and how digital strategy is the key to being more successful in the current environment.
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BA: Bruce Richardson's linked to Salesforce began during his tenure as chief research officer at AMR research.
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BA: During a 20 year career. There he initiated and led the firm's coverage of the RP supply chain management CRM e commerce cloud computing digital applications and the future of work.
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BA: Over that period, the company grew from a three person startup to become a leader in research and analysis of enterprise applications and supply chain management.
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BA: AMR research was acquired by Gartner and December 2009 thank you for joining us. Bruce
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BA: Again, this just a reminder, all of our open sessions, including this one will be recorded and available to you to watch again at your convenience.
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BA: For our customers out there. We invite you to join us later in the morning for our product roadmap session and tomorrow for our customer only tech day. Now let's get to it. Our day to opener a rapid fire session with Bruce Richardson right behind and September. Hi, and
Rapid Fire Keynote hosted by Dario Ambrosini, CMO, Propel (DA)
Speakers:
Ray Hein, CEO and Founder, Propel (RH)
September Higham, VP of Professional Services, Propel (SH)
Bruce Richardson, Chief Business Strategist, Salesforce (BR)
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DA: Welcome to Day two of propulsion, as I see you on my screen, Ray. Hi, Bruce Richarson, September. Higham thank you for joining us this morning.
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Bruce Richardson: Happy to be here. The morning
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DA: Wanting to we're doing a little something different. Today we're going to do a three way keynote. And the reason we brought you in here is Ray, you're a manufacturer and then got into technology.
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DA: Directly related to manufacturing or as you're an enterprise strategist who knows the pulse of the market where things are going
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DA: In September, you've managed hundreds of implementations. You work directly with companies that want to implement it individualized strategy and you've seen it firsthand.
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DA: So the goal here today is to bring the three of you get some different points of view and just see if we can talk about the events are the topics that we have here propulsion from your different perspectives.
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DA: So I'm going to start off with where we ended yesterday. Tiffany Bova and prior to that, Geoffrey Moore talked about this shift moving from the digital product, or excuse me, the industrial product era.
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DA: To more of the digital product era, the age of the customer the connected customer and having to make sure that your products are built and delivered with what customers want
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DA: And I just want to start with the three of you agree that we've seen this transition in the product era or in your product markets. We're now moving to the age where making customers happy is going to be key to success. Let's, let's start with you on this one Bruce
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Bruce: Absolutely. I think the consumer has always been in charge and whether or not the consumer is a business or
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BR: Someone shopping for the family dinner. I think they've clearly been in charge, what's happening, I think, is the balance of power has really shifted it used to be a relationship between
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BR: Say a CP G company and the customer. And now, thanks to cope with that brand loyalty is all dissipated. There's been a lot of studies out from McKinsey, including one last week.
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BR: It says compared to last year, consumers are more than three times as likely to trade down to lower cost brands or to change retailers. When shopping for a standard basket of goods.
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BR: Nearly half of Americans will spend more online and in stores. So the loyalty that they once had to a particular
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BR: retail shop or supermarkets changing. It's all about price. But one thing we don't know is whether or not this is a permanent change or is this something that will go back to whatever the new normal is postcodes
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BR: Now, the other thing I would add is
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RH: Go ahead.
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BR: Oh, I was just gonna say the other thing is there are still some brands that does that. All right.
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BR: The other thing I would add is that there's still some brands that demand strong customer loyalty. And I think, you know, the two that I'm going to name and that's Apple and Tesla.
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BR: People are willing to wait anything for them. My brother in law was so excited about the potential for Tesla's new million mile battery. That's all I heard about the weekend that
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BR: We spent with him. So there's a lot going on. But there's a lot of change coming for all of us involved in this industry.
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RH: And to build on your point about brand loyalty and just a cool products. I recently put out a LinkedIn post about a trainer barbecue will Tregger grill and
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RH: You know, it was really interesting. When I opened up the box. I had just as a child like delightful experience because the inside of the box is painting or it was printed like a cabin.
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RH: And so I flipped it around, but the cabin together when I was a kid, I used to put boxes together and play for us in the leg.
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RH: But it just brought me back to this really cool customer experience. They knew their customer, they, they sent it out to make it a really delightful experience from
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RH: From that to the mobile app to you know the the recipes that are online. So, you know, even though it was the first time I've ever bought one of their grills and high end barbecues.
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RH: I'm going to be a loyal customer forever just based off of that. But you know the other piece to to think about, like, the age of the customer and
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RH: Really, you know, it becomes business models. You know, it's about how do you sell. How do you win more business.
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RH: How do you maintain those customers and think about what people are looking for today. And when I think of those kinds of examples.
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RH: I think about companies like just know who makes volume 3D printers industry port on prem solutions and they recently launched a print as a service.
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RH: Capability as a business model and then a year ago, who's, you know, a hearing a company that has been in a long stayed area and kind of did something like
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RH: Warby. Did you know, for for eyeglasses. They've now taken earrings and made it so that the audiologist is not in the process that they'll send your hearing aids on
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RH: To you in a direct to consumer and so they've taken out costs in the in the business value chain but they increase that ease and ability
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RH: For people of age or whatever age that need hearing aids to actually purchase and will very delightful experience so
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RH: You know those kinds of shelves and people thinking about products as a service or better business outcomes for their customers.
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RH: I think is, is really what we're talking about, even you know anything about the age of BLM and bringing products to market. It's about how do you delight your customers in a long
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DA: Time, anything that
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SH: Well, he other challenges with manufacturers who faced this customer first product strategy.
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SH: Customers want new products available faster. They want them tailored to specific requirements like the length of time that a customer's
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SH: Product is viable in the market is very, very short. Now there's tons of products proliferating in the marketplace. And this makes me think of the challenge that our customer Vizio has successfully.
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SH: Successfully tackled so Vizio, as you know, makes TVs televisions and related equipment.
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SH: And, you know, talk about a fast paced market and talk about a market where you have to laser focus, what you're doing to the needs of the customer. If I walk into Costco.
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SH: I can buy a Vizio TV, but I can buy any other brand as well. And the competition is just for yours.
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SH: So Vizio needs to take its customers into consideration, but when we think of videos customers, the consumer, but also distribution channels.
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SH: So one of his iOS challenges was that in some of their distribution channels certain certifications are required for example if Vizio wants to sell TVs at Walmart, they have to meet certain certifications, things like FCC class be California prop 65 there's a whole bunch of them.
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SH: In fact, Vizio needs to track 56 different types of certifications and at any time they got dozens of products that are active in the marketplace right now.
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SH: And so Vizio made a really creative use of our propel compliance module to track these certifications. So at any time and it's not it's not enough to say, Hey Mark, I'm certified
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SH: Walmart wants to see all of the tests that were read all of the test results. Lots of associated documentation and so Vizio is very nicely using propel to store.
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SH: All of that certification information for all of their different distribution channels and you know as soon as Vizio gets done with a particular product line.
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SH: You know, people are working really hard and going to great heroics to get these products to market as soon as they're done. Oh, it's time for the spring release. Let's do it all over again.
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SH: So can I definite challenges with this customer first strategy, but you know some of our customers are doing a really amazing job at using propel to store this information and control it and actually meet those customer needs.
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DA: So Ray and Bruce, is I'm going to build them what some what September went down the path of some of the problems that this creates Bruce me talk about the balance of power shifting away from CTG
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DA: Whether this shift is permanent or not in terms of how some customers to change their buying behavior during coven
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DA: Anytime there's a movement from one place to another. Anytime it's uncertain if it's permanent or not you as a manufacturer any company needs to start figuring out how do you navigate these changes what types of problems. Does that create for customers, excuse me for manufacturers.
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BR: Well, I think the hardest thing is predicting the future and you know one of those announcements that I got most excited about and talk about it in a lot of presentations on on the future.
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BR: Especially the future of manufacturing was what Adidas, or it does was doing with the speed factory and they announced that with great fanfare, starting in about 2015 and then
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BR: Within a short amount of time. A couple years gradually close down all the operations, but that was they were doing a lot of things right, at least on PowerPoint.
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BR: Well you know it's funny. I went to their site today because I was trying to figure out what their lot sizes were because they figured out a way they thought
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BR: That they can be more profitable producing smaller batches of shoes versus doing giant runs of say 100,000 pairs at a time.
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BR: But some of the stuff they talked about on the website was reinventing manufacturing
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BR: Using Data Driven Design radical, radical accelerated footwear production open source co creation highly flexible and localized manufacturing
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BR: And they were employing 3D printing robotic arms computerized knitting all of that really cool stuff. And I remember meeting someone from the data saying
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BR: Hey, these factories could be open for tours to the public. He said, Oh, absolutely reach out to me now because I didn't reach out in time and have to take the time tunnel back to actually complete that
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BR: What actually happened was, each air required in the speed factory with the robots each pair required between 60 and 80 steps and as many as three different machines to attach the toe and the yield to the soul so
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BR: It was even though was using robots, it was still more labor intensive. So it didn't work, but it's an idea of all the right ideas.
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BR: You know, the idea that they were going to come out with a different to based on the major city that you ran into the London shoe was different than the
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BR: Tokyo shoe that was different than the Manhattan shoe, which was different than the sole shoe. Instead, the etc. Yeah, those are some great ideas or
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BR: What's a relatively modest problem, a pair of running shoes. A to build on that point, I was doesn't it does example one of our customers form labs.
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RH: I had worked with new balance. Now we're going to talk about running shoes for the next 30 or 40 minutes but you know the the 990 sport triple sell
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RH: Product. The heel is 3D printing using a form lads printer and, you know, to build on your point. Bruce that the industry, you know, high performance runners that are willing to pay.
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RH: Two or $300 for a pair of running shoes, you know, as you mentioned, people are willing to pay more, you know, if it's for them, you know, so this movement to mass customization, personalization is everywhere.
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RH: And so, you know, the constraints of rigidity and traditional manufacturing disappear when you start to think about having, you know, 3D printers like desktop metal or form labs that are
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RH: You know, creating new products that couldn't have been made without, you know, these great new industry core nano technologies from from these companies.
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RH: And so, you know, we what we really see and why traditional PLM
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RH: doesn't keep up you know with this change in the market is traditional PLM was focused on either one of two things in my mind, it was
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RH: High want high volume, you know, high volume. And it's actually with consistent villain material.
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RH: Or it was for like long life cycle, you know, in highly engineered companies like planes, trains, and automobiles.
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RH: But the vast majority of the companies in the world don't fall into those two buckets. And so this whole era in mass customization and personalization.
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RH: You know what we would think as engineer to order designed to order or what we call custom engineering products is changing the world and
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RH: You know, so if you talk about the age of the customer, you know, Gen Z or millennial buyers, it's you know, it's kind of the Burger King model out of it, you know.
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RH: And and so the manufacturers now need to keep up with that personalization and customization to one initially when the customer and then tune from brand loyalty and keep them forever.
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SH: You know, when we talk about manufacturers meeting this challenge for digital transformation.
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SH: I mean we digital transformation as a buzzword that we hear a lot lately. And, you know, our goal is to make things faster.
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SH: Have a unified digital strategy. And in fact, we have a customer panel coming up a little bit later called Go cloud for the win.
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SH: With Sierra monitor and find can Salesforce and Sierra monitor and fight have some really interesting manufacturing examples of really having a unified digital strategy.
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SH: But Bruce and ray because you talked about sneakers. I think I
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SH: I just can't help but bring you to the bottom of the ocean and talk about a digital strategy that is really, really working. So, so bear with me. I'm going to try not to get too geeky on you, but
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SH: I gotta tell you about our customer see veggie geo solutions interesting unified digital strategy. So what what see that does is they make these things called nodes. They're the size of a suitcase.
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SH: And they drop them down to the bottom of the ocean to map the ocean floor. So they drop these things, they'll, they'll drop a whole bunch of these little suitcases called nodes.
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SH: 3000 meters down into the ocean. I mean 3000 meters is what when I go scuba diving 20 meters i max out so 3000 meters and they'll drop them down, they have something called node on a wire where these are tethered
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SH: To a boat on on the surface or they can be deployed by remote underwater vehicles, but
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SH: Basically, it is a harsh environment at the bottom of the ocean. And so when these nodes are doing their mapping and they do this for the oil and gas industry mapping the ocean floor.
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SH: When they're, when they're doing their mapping, we expect a certain amount of failures is a really, really harsh environment, but
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SH: That the difficulty is see potential solution contracts out with customers to do this mapping for the customers.
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SH: And if the nodes have a certain threshold of failure. See, Ben has to go out and do the mapping again. So these boats will go out for a few days at a time.
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SH: And if they don't get the results they want. They've got to do it again and hasn't really really expensive.
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SH: So the challenges that these nodes were transmitting real time data to the boat and then this data from the bone eventually trickled back to a central server.
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SH: And once a week and quality committee would get, get the data from the central server and analyze the data and try to figure out
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SH: Which nodes were failing and why they were failing and, you know, that was working reasonably well. But definitely needed some improvement.
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SH: And so let's see that did is they implemented propel and got their design data into propel so we know you know
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SH: How the nodes are actually constructed. But even as important. They got their asset data into into Salesforce and propel so propel now knows only the notes. I know 23 notes 67 notes 78
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SH: What node was built to what design and what components. I know I'm using battery pack revision be on know 23
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SH: And now that we had 310. And we're from that central server that hosts the failure information we're feeding that failure information back into propel so so bear with me. I promise that small take forever, but
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SH: can propel we've got design data failure information and asset data.
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SH: So now this quality committee, they need every single day and they can say, okay, we know that these three nodes on the ocean floor failed, what is common about these three nodes.
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SH: Oh, I can see the date of manufacture, because I have the asset data. And I know that, oh, these nodes were all using the same battery pack.
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SH: This provision previous revision of a battery pack. Hey, let me notify the boat. That's out to Jay and let them know that they might have some issues with these nodes so that they can mitigate those issues while they're still out and we don't have to rerun
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SH: That's that ocean survey. I know this was a really, really long example but these sorts of challenges are just elegantly solved by getting
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SH: All of the data into one place. I mean, the unified digital digital strategy is really, really important. And the cost savings can be huge.
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RH: I'm going to just add on to that maybe some summarizing the couple ways one. What you're talking about is that customers see that you know they're working with
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RH: Shell, Exxon Mobil or whomever their end customers expecting outcome that they're going to get mapped you know Nap. Nap data points from that ocean floor and understand when you're there's oil.
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RH: They're not so it is all about business outcomes that they're getting paid for. So it's a different business model and which is what we were just talking about.
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RH: But number two, you know what you're talking about is a platform that is flexible and extensible to handle that kind of a use case, if you will. And, you know,
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RH: There's a lot of people talking about digital transformation and digital twins and digital threads and what you described it, most people would not associate
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RH: Salesforce and propel with really having an amazing solution to handle that design data from the front end to the asset data.
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RH: To really connect the front to the back, you know, or the digital twin, the digital thread as you described.
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RH: But you know, that's only one case we have numerous others that are doing something similar as well with
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RH: You know mapping not not being ocean close with, you know, autonomous submarines and and those kinds of things. So there's some really cool companies when we start to connect the customer in the asset record.
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RH: For the design data and then different use cases for business outcomes. And to me, that really is the big shift, you know, for this whole notion of digital transformation is that digital twin digital
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DA: Bruce let's dig into that maybe a little bit
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DA: You know, and I just want to summarize, because we went into a few different tangents which I appreciate, but we talked a little bit about market uncertainty that we regulations competitive environments.
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DA: mass customization September, you brought up the whole concept of the United platform and how that is helping seabed.
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DA: So, you know, when you think about navigating this environment is this united platform or just platforms in general, is this the way
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DA: To just make sense of all of these different areas that need to be navigated and all of these challenges are are platforms, really the key to a digital strategy or as an effective one
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BR: Absolutely I would say that it's the platform. It's cloud. It's the world of interconnected API's.
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BR: It's analytics. It's visualization and it's being able to find out what's happening in right now. It's AI to tell you what's happening and giving you a warning of what could happen. So I think the platform has taken on an enormous
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BR: Role of responsibility as we go forward here, so I'm really excited with some of the stuff that propels going to push us further so
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BR: I didn't think it's just a very exciting time to be in technology. It's a lot better than when I started, where, you know, the world was all mainframes and, you know, you understand the intricacies of soca and I don't even want to go down that path. It's too thing.
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BR: But yeah, I think the flexible platforms, everything. And I think the speed with which you can do things we've given a lot of customer examples.
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BR: But probably my favorite story occurred one night, Ray and team invited me to a dinner at a restaurant in Burlington mass and I happen to sit with some really smart people.
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SH: It varies. So some of our customers want very, very simple things and they may not already have Salesforce, for example. So some of our customers may say
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RH: You know Daria just add one more plane. And it's really about that flexibility in its kind of start anywhere go anywhere. So will that foundation or that platform.
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RH: Yeah, I think I you know I mentioned a little bit about that yesterday, September I think they said they went from
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RH: In the last piece with this is, it is people in process, but so many times people have worked on just thinking about the technical implementation.
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RH: You know, as you get certified for sale in any new geography, you have to go through the global product registration process. So for me, Bruce. You can try then that
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BR: Within a short amount of time. I want to say a weekend your team. Ray had taken all of the products specs. I think the approved vendor list.
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RH: Thank you. Thank you. It was one of the really probably one of the best
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DA: That's one end of the spectrum of where we are today. And I don't know how. Audience groans work in the virtual world, but I'm pretty sure we heard it earlier. When Bruce, you mentioned, ERP around 1990
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BR: I think ERP still exists will likely always exist, but it's not the most important investments that you're making going forward that I think it's
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BR: But what I am saying is new investments that we're making are all designed to make it easier to do business with my company or your company. So I think that's the way things are switching in terms of what does the future look like five years from now, I think we're just going to take
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BR: We're just going to get used to the idea that there's more and more AI and machine learning and everything.
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BR: Cobot initiatives going on now and I'm working with some companies that are doing it in the grocery and retail business and it's a huge opportunity there.
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BR: I think visualization becomes increasingly important in terms of how you see the data and how you react to it. And I think we're continuing to provide tools that
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BR: You know, make software so much easier to use. I can still remember the first time I sat down at an IBM PC and the first thing that popped up was a colon.
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BR: I mean I had been used to Wang word processing system that out of, you know, idiot proof menu. I had no idea what to do with a colon or C colon. So I'm a big fan of ease of use since like everybody else on this call. I don't read the manual my go to you to
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RH: The word star systems, I, I get your point. So, moving from there to where are we going to be in the next five years, you know, die. I think
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RH: Geoffrey Moore, you know, spoke yesterday about zone to win and the age of the customer, but there was a great blog post that Dr. P put out. I don't know, maybe two or three years ago.
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RH: And so how do all those foundational steps we've got it goes through and have the records there. You gotta have the engagement. You've got system of engagement by leveraging channels everywhere. Not product which is super cool for
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RH: Contextual collaboration. We've got analytics and dashboards, you know,
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RH: All over the place, you can get some more data and propelled and you can get into any to propel the sales force in any other business systems just by the bluejeans platform.
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RH: But to Bruce's point machine learning and analytics and AI kind of the next step. It's starting to happen.
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RH: In different ways when you start pulling in that connected data like September talked about in the Seabed piece.
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RH: And then having to visualize it by maybe using tablo or other visualization system so that the business owners can actually really garner their insights
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RH: But it starts from what outcome. Do you want and then now. Do you have the systems and the tools underneath it to support the business and grow.
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RH: And so, you know, getting yesterday I introduced kind of a notion of a triad of a chief product officer chief revenue officer and chief service or customer success.
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RH: Those are the folks that are being held accountable for revenue goals market share and rose to the products work, you know, is it at the right quality. Are we having quality escapes and failures on that side. So to me this path.
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RH: That's really the next three to four or five years. And there are companies, small companies may still be on systems of record and system of engagement to September's point just getting the baseline stuff going
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RH: But medium sized companies and in bigger companies that really are going to be breakouts need to go through that digital transformation journey all the way up that ladder and
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RH: An employee every soul and then get the business mindset was crucified about the business process reengineering the big you know GS eyes the centers and the voice of centric. One of our other other partners that we talked about, as you know, as well.
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RH: They're working at the big business level to talk about companies where they want to be three to four or five years in your business goals.
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RH: And then making sure that they've got the foundation and the technology platforms that are going to allow them to stair step up to meet those business goals and business outcomes.
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SH: You know, both of you Bruce and Ray you're talking about all these wonderful things that are happening in the future. And all of these sophisticated tools and opportunities, but I'll tell you what, I have a fundamentals gal. I mean, sometimes
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SH: I mean like Yesterday we heard a lot about supply chain management and they're storing on shoring de risking
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SH: And, you know, we've got tariffs to trade wars and people say, Well, can we really decouple from China. I mean,
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SH: It is fundamentals that solve those problems. I mean fundamentals of core pls
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SH: I mean, Bruce. You were talking about back in the dark ages. You got to see prompted a for option.
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SH: I'm thinking about something that I encountered in the early 2000s, which really hit home fundamentals are important. So this is before propel even existed. I was working for another software company and on prem PLM on solution where radius to work too.
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SH: And my customer was leap frog. So leap frog makes really cool children's toys and one of the toys. They made without talking globe.
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SH: So an elementary school kid would would take this talking globe and they would take a pen and point to a country and the globe would say this is Afghanistan.
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SH: Or the globe and ask some questions, like in what countries do they speak French, and the child would touch the different French speaking countries.
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SH: coolest toy ever I had elementary school children at home at the time when I was doing this project, but we tried I'd bring these toys home all the time. It was wonderful.
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SH: Well, we probably had an issue with a contract manufacturer in China and
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SH: The artwork for the globe was defined to be x and the contract manufacturer in China kept messing with the artwork. It was particularly Taiwan. That was the issue.
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SH: So China was in purple and China was in big block letters and Taiwan was made to be in green with big block letters as if they were two separate countries.
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SH: Chinese contract manufacturer kept messing with the artwork and we would receive a shipment of gloves where China was purple and Taiwan was purple and Taiwan within two letters as if it was a Chinese Providence.
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SH: So leap frog was having some quality issues at the time. Also, and they just just got fed up and decided
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SH: We want to move contract manufacturer. So we want to pull this manufacturing out of China, and we want to move it to Mexico.
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SH: And so they quickly found that that was impossible because their Chinese manufacturer had been doing some of the design for their products.
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SH: And so leap frog didn't have their product record in house they had pieces of it, but many of the important pieces were owned by the contract manufacturer
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SH: And the CM was not really forthcoming with the information for obvious reasons. And so it was
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SH: It was just a huge struggle for leapfrog to gather all of that information together to have really long time and lots of effort.
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SH: But again, that just brings me back to the fundamentals. I love everything that's coming but company needs to get the product record.
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SH: Organized in PLM and then we can do more exciting things with it. I mean, I'm sure what run out of time. If we don't, I want to tell you about one plant TECH IS DOING WITH end to end customer story, but I will stop talking and if someone else to turn
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RH: I'm just going to add one point what you're talking about his business. Resiliency, you know, and they needed to worry about, you know, second sourcing
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RH: Or manufacturing that way. And, you know, as we talked to a lot of our customers. Now, especially during coven. It is about having the flexibility and business resiliency of being in the fungible, and
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RH: If they want to go from China to Mexico for tariff reasons or whatever, you know, will do they have the technology and the ability in that and the security to actually get that that flexibility in their business.
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SH: And, you know, Ray that and verse two, we were all around in the 1990s. I mean, right. I worked at SHERPA AND YOU WERE A customer service.
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SH: Only we're trying to do. There was parts deliver the material and engineering change orders, we did three things. And we were really, really proud of ourselves and
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SH: We were writing little customization, like let's send out an email at this point of the workflow. Oh, it was awesome. It was, it was good times.
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SH: But we've just come so far. I love the fact that we can now I guess I can't help but talk about blind tag. You know what Blentech
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SH: They make engineered to order equipment great big blenders. The size of the bathroom.
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SH: And they're able to take, take the customer request build a Salesforce opportunity when the opportunity matures, to a certain point that
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SH: They automatically generate a propelled projects that project consolidates all of the documentation.
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SH: That's needed for that opportunity when the opportunity turns into a sale, they start to assemble the bill of materials. The push it out to rootstock here RP, which is on the Salesforce platform.
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SH: And they do field service, which brings it back to the customer. I mean this end to end customer journey is real.
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RH: You know, Bruce. You should. I don't know if you want to chime in here all
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BR: No, I just think this has been a great discussion and I'm so pleased to be part of it. Really appreciate the invite from propelled to to do this.
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BR: I've met with Ray. I've known Ray for a long time.
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BR: But I've met with him days after he started propel and I was so excited about. And we had a long conversation about
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BR: To the built on the Salesforce platform. And I thought it'd be a great opportunity because he'd be have the unique positioning and being the only pls vendor on the platform and that
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BR: To me, this is the PLM is such a critical part of everything you're going to do to improve the customer experience so
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BR: The more input you can get from customers and what they want to see on the product, the faster you can feed those needs requirements or changes.
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BR: Get that into propel the faster the new products come out the new way you're serving clients, whether it's
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BR: You know, looking at designing for sustainability or thinking about doing upgrades over the year. I just think there's there's so much potential here that I'm really glad to have you guys as a partner
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BR: I encourage anyone that's not a customer to take a much closer look at transforming their business with you guys so again. Thanks for the invite.
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RH: And it's a thanks Bruce thanks for being a fan of propel and, you know, thanks for being one of the guys that don't define PLM back in the day when you're at a Mr. In, in a gardener as well but
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RH: Maybe I'll cap it off here D'Addario maybe read it further, one at a time. But what Bruce has talking about you've heard me say Daria dead product development product launch
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RH: You know there's new product introduction product launch and then there's aftermarket service that
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RH: Product success is a team sport that everybody that you know it's a unique
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RH: Product record that everybody touches the product, you know, whether it's from concept to design to make market sell and service.
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RH: Or product interactions and processes that everybody touches. And so, you know, you've heard September.
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RH: Really get excited about some of the cool things she's implementing at our customers and many many more stories after us.
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RH: But it is a different brand of PLM, you know, and we've redefined the category and we I talked about, you know, teen sports. It's where like Skating to the park.
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RH: You know you want to go where things are going, the age of the customer. It is about the customer. So there's engineering CAD PLM
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RH: their supply chain LM with the Iraqi folks. And then there's customer driven. And then there's propel that scan that spans the gamut. It goes from create commercialize to service the products and brings everybody in the company.
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RH: And really the whole extended business value chain together conceptually to collaborate launch you know and and do it in a compliant secure manner in the cloud that
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RH: Has never been done before, you know, I really think that we are fulfilling the promise of what September and I started with Sherpa and agile in arena and
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RH: You know, other systems that we worked with were actually fulfilling the promise of what we thought PDF NT LM could be to what it needed to be you know today. And now, and
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RH: We've got, you know, a lot of customers CIOs CEOs, you know, heads of companies that are really showing business outcomes value, you know, from what we're doing so.
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RH: Very proud of you work with Bruce and Salesforce as a as one of our key partners and
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RH: Certainly proud of our propellerheads and amazing things. Our customers are doing with our solution. So thank you. Bruce. Thank you. September for making this customer live happy and replicable to that's a cool thing.
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DA: All right, well, we've run out of time. I really appreciate the insights fantastic stuff September Bruce Ray, thank you so much for joining us this morning. Thank you. Cheers, everyone.
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